Mrs Madeleine Talmage Astor (née Force)

Madeleine Talmage Astor

Mrs John Jacob Astor (Madeleine Force), 18, was the wife of millionaire John Jacob Astor , they had been on an extended honeymoon in Egypt and Paris and, in the spring of 1912, decided to return to America as First Class passengers on board the brand new Titanic .

They boarded the Titanic at Cherbourg with Colonel Astor's manservant Mr Victor Robbins , Mrs Astor's maid Miss Rosalie Bidois and their pet Airedale Kitty. Also accompanying the Astors was Mrs Astor's private nurse Miss Caroline Louise Endres .

After the accident Colonel Astor left his suite to investigate, he quickly returned and reported to Madeleine that the ship had struck ice. He reassured her that the damage did not appear serious.

Later as they waited on the boat deck , Mrs Astor lent Leah Aks her shawl to keep her son Filly warm. At one point the Astors retired to the gymnasium and sat on the mechanical horses. They wore their lifebelts but Colonel Astor had found another and cut the lining with a pen knife to show his wife what it was made of. Colonel and Mrs Astor later moved down to A-Deck from where Mrs Astor boarded lifeboat 4 aided by her husband and Second Officer Charles Lightoller .

Madeleine inherited from her husband the income from a five-million-dollar trust fund and the use of his home on Fifth Avenue and in the Newport so long as she did not marry. On 14 August 1912, she gave birth to a son with whom she was pregnant on the Titanic , and she named him after her husband, John Jacob Astor.

During World War one She married William K. Dick (and relinquished all claim to the Astor fortune) who was born in Brooklyn, New York on May 28, 1888. They had two sons, William F. and John H. Dick. Mr Dick was a prominent corporate official in companies such as St. Regis Paper Company, Best Foods, Inc., Irving Trust Company, and St. Regis Timber Company. They divorced in 1933 in Reno, Nevada. After their divorce Mr Dick married Virginia Montez Conner on December 24, 1941 and had a daughter and a son. He died at Allen Winden Farm, Islip, New York on September 5, 1953.

Madeleine went on to marry prize-fighter Enzo Fiermonte but they too divorced in 1938 and she took back the surname Dick. She died in Palm Beach, Florida in 1940 at the age of 47.

Credits
Hermann Söldner, Germany
George Behe, USA
Phillip Gowan, USA

Notes
John Jacob Astor V was born on the 14 August 1912. He first married Ellen Tuck and had two children, William and Jacqueline. After a divorce he married Gertrude Gretch, and after they divorced, he married Sue Sandford. That marriage endured until Sue's death. John J. Astor, V died in Miami Beach, Florida on June 26, 1992 at the age of 79.
References and Sources
The Palm Beach Times (Florida), Obituary
State of Florida Certificate of Death
The Miami Herald (Florida), June 28 1992, Obituary of John Jacob Astor V
State of Florida Certificate of Death (John Jacob Astor V)
John P. Eaton & Charles A. Haas (1994) Titanic: Triumph & Tragedy , 2nd ed. Patrick Stephens Ltd. ISBN 1 85260 493 X
Don Lynch & Ken Marschall (1992) Titanic: An Illustrated History . London, Hodder & Stoughton. ISBN 0 340 56271 4
Contract Ticket List , White Star Line 1912 (National Archives, New York; NRAN-21-SDNYCIVCAS-55[279])

Pictures

Mrs. Astor's Residence, Newport, R. I.

MRS. ASTOR'S RESIDENCE, NEWPORT, R. I.

 
Portrait of Madeleine Force Astor in mourning

(1912) 

PORTRAIT OF MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR IN MOURNING

 
John Jacob and Madeleine Astor on their honeymoon

(1911) 

JOHN JACOB AND MADELEINE ASTOR ON THEIR HONEYMOON

 
Madeleine Force Astor riding in Central Park, New York City

(1914) 

MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR RIDING IN CENTRAL PARK, NEW YORK CITY

 
News photo of Madeleine Force Astor walking on Fifth Avenue, taken shortly after her marriage

(1911) 

NEWS PHOTO OF MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR WALKING ON FIFTH AVENUE, TAKEN SHORTLY AFTER HER MARRIAGE

 
Mrs. Astor's life vest

MRS. ASTOR'S LIFE VEST

 
Astor says: We'll Meet in New York

(1912) 

ASTOR SAYS: WE'LL MEET IN NEW YORK

 
The Astors

(1912) 

THE ASTORS

 
Madeleine Astor Force

(1912) 

MADELEINE ASTOR FORCE

 
Lucien P. Smith's December baby

(1912) 

LUCIEN P. SMITH'S DECEMBER BABY

 
MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

(1912) 

MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

 
MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR (1)

(1912) 

MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR (1)

 
Madeleine Astor

(1911) 

MADELEINE ASTOR

 
Mrs. Astor riding in Central Park

(1914) 

MRS. ASTOR RIDING IN CENTRAL PARK

 
Mrs. Astor on her morning trot through Central Park

(1915) 

MRS. ASTOR ON HER MORNING TROT THROUGH CENTRAL PARK

 
Madeleine Astor with stepson Vincent

(1915) 

MADELEINE ASTOR WITH STEPSON VINCENT

 

Articles and Stories

John J. Astor 5th, 79; Son of Builder of Hotel

New York Times  (1992) 

JOHN J. ASTOR 5TH, 79; SON OF BUILDER OF HOTEL

 
Robert Hopkins, Hero of Titanic, Dies in Hoboken

Jersey Observer  (1943) 

ROBERT HOPKINS, HERO OF TITANIC, DIES IN HOBOKEN

 
John Jacob Astor 3d, 21, Comes Info Vast Fortune

New York Times  (1933) 

JOHN JACOB ASTOR 3D, 21, COMES INFO VAST FORTUNE

 
FIERMONTES VISIT TIVOLI

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTES VISIT TIVOLI

 
SAY ASTOR WEDDING IS NEAR AT HAND

New York Times  (1911) 

SAY ASTOR WEDDING IS NEAR AT HAND

 
BARRED FROM BERMUDA

New York Times  (1933) 

BARRED FROM BERMUDA

 
Fiermonte Threatens Divorce

New York Times  (1934) 

FIERMONTE THREATENS DIVORCE

 
MET BY STEPSON

The Daily Banner  (1912) 

MET BY STEPSON

 
TRIBUTE TO J. C. SMITH

New York Times  (1912) 

TRIBUTE TO J. C. SMITH

 
ASTOR HOME SCENE OF NEWPORT PARTY

New York Times  (1935) 

ASTOR HOME SCENE OF NEWPORT PARTY

 
Astor Gave Up Lifeboat Seat

Brooklyn Daily Eagle  (1912) 

ASTOR GAVE UP LIFEBOAT SEAT

 
Astor Put Boy By Wife's Side

Worcester Evening Gazette  (1912) 

ASTOR PUT BOY BY WIFE'S SIDE

 
CAPT. ROSTRON GUEST OF MRS. J. B. THAYER

New York Times  (1912) 

CAPT. ROSTRON GUEST OF MRS. J. B. THAYER

 
COL. ASTOR TO WED MADELEINE FORCE

New York Times  (1911) 

COL. ASTOR TO WED MADELEINE FORCE

 
ELLEN TUCK FRENCH IS ENGAGED TO WED

New York Times  (1934) 

ELLEN TUCK FRENCH IS ENGAGED TO WED

 
FIERMONTES FACE CHARGE OF BIGAMY

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTES FACE CHARGE OF BIGAMY

 
FIERMONTE AND WIFE BACK

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTE AND WIFE BACK

 
BIG CROWD SAILS TO-DAY

New York Times  (1912) 

BIG CROWD SAILS TO-DAY

 
COL. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

New York Times  (1912) 

COL. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

 
MRS. FIERMONTE SUES

New York Times  (1938) 

MRS. FIERMONTE SUES

 
COL. GRACIE IS BURIED IN GARB WORN ON TITANIC

The Washington Times  (1912) 

COL. GRACIE IS BURIED IN GARB WORN ON TITANIC

 
MRS. DICK GOES TO RENO

New York Times  (1933) 

MRS. DICK GOES TO RENO

 
MRS. FIERMONTE'S ESTATE

New York Times  (1941) 

MRS. FIERMONTE'S ESTATE

 
LAST MAN TO LEAVE TITANIC WAS COLONEL GRACIE, U.S.A.

The Toronto Daily Star  (1912) 

LAST MAN TO LEAVE TITANIC WAS COLONEL GRACIE, U.S.A.

 
FIERMONTES SAIL ON THE SAME SHIP

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTES SAIL ON THE SAME SHIP

 
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