Mrs Madeleine Talmage Astor (née Force)

Madeleine Talmage Astor

Mrs John Jacob Astor (Madeleine Force), 18, was the wife of millionaire John Jacob Astor , they had been on an extended honeymoon in Egypt and Paris and, in the spring of 1912, decided to return to America as First Class passengers on board the brand new Titanic .

They boarded the Titanic at Cherbourg with Colonel Astor's manservant Mr Victor Robbins , Mrs Astor's maid Miss Rosalie Bidois and their pet Airedale Kitty. Also accompanying the Astors was Mrs Astor's private nurse Miss Caroline Louise Endres .

After the accident Colonel Astor left his suite to investigate, he quickly returned and reported to Madeleine that the ship had struck ice. He reassured her that the damage did not appear serious.

Later as they waited on the boat deck , Mrs Astor lent Leah Aks her shawl to keep her son Filly warm. At one point the Astors retired to the gymnasium and sat on the mechanical horses. They wore their lifebelts but Colonel Astor had found another and cut the lining with a pen knife to show his wife what it was made of. Colonel and Mrs Astor later moved down to A-Deck from where Mrs Astor boarded lifeboat 4 aided by her husband and Second Officer Charles Lightoller .

Madeleine inherited from her husband the income from a five-million-dollar trust fund and the use of his home on Fifth Avenue and in the Newport so long as she did not marry. On 14 August 1912, she gave birth to a son with whom she was pregnant on the Titanic , and she named him after her husband, John Jacob Astor.

During World War one She married William K. Dick (and relinquished all claim to the Astor fortune) who was born in Brooklyn, New York on May 28, 1888. They had two sons, William F. and John H. Dick. Mr Dick was a prominent corporate official in companies such as St. Regis Paper Company, Best Foods, Inc., Irving Trust Company, and St. Regis Timber Company. They divorced in 1933 in Reno, Nevada. After their divorce Mr Dick married Virginia Montez Conner on December 24, 1941 and had a daughter and a son. He died at Allen Winden Farm, Islip, New York on September 5, 1953.

Madeleine went on to marry prize-fighter Enzo Fiermonte but they too divorced in 1938 and she took back the surname Dick. She died in Palm Beach, Florida in 1940 at the age of 47.

Credits
Hermann Söldner, Germany
George Behe, USA
Phillip Gowan, USA

Notes
John Jacob Astor V was born on the 14 August 1912. He first married Ellen Tuck and had two children, William and Jacqueline. After a divorce he married Gertrude Gretch, and after they divorced, he married Sue Sandford. That marriage endured until Sue's death. John J. Astor, V died in Miami Beach, Florida on June 26, 1992 at the age of 79.
References and Sources
The Palm Beach Times (Florida), Obituary
State of Florida Certificate of Death
The Miami Herald (Florida), June 28 1992, Obituary of John Jacob Astor V
State of Florida Certificate of Death (John Jacob Astor V)
John P. Eaton & Charles A. Haas (1994) Titanic: Triumph & Tragedy , 2nd ed. Patrick Stephens Ltd. ISBN 1 85260 493 X
Don Lynch & Ken Marschall (1992) Titanic: An Illustrated History . London, Hodder & Stoughton. ISBN 0 340 56271 4
Contract Ticket List , White Star Line 1912 (National Archives, New York; NRAN-21-SDNYCIVCAS-55[279])

Pictures

Mrs. Astor's Residence, Newport, R. I.

MRS. ASTOR'S RESIDENCE, NEWPORT, R. I.

 
Portrait of Madeleine Force Astor in mourning

(1912) 

PORTRAIT OF MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR IN MOURNING

 
John Jacob and Madeleine Astor on their honeymoon

(1911) 

JOHN JACOB AND MADELEINE ASTOR ON THEIR HONEYMOON

 
Madeleine Force Astor riding in Central Park, New York City

(1914) 

MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR RIDING IN CENTRAL PARK, NEW YORK CITY

 
News photo of Madeleine Force Astor walking on Fifth Avenue, taken shortly after her marriage

(1911) 

NEWS PHOTO OF MADELEINE FORCE ASTOR WALKING ON FIFTH AVENUE, TAKEN SHORTLY AFTER HER MARRIAGE

 
Mrs. Astor's life vest

MRS. ASTOR'S LIFE VEST

 
Astor says: We'll Meet in New York

(1912) 

ASTOR SAYS: WE'LL MEET IN NEW YORK

 
The Astors

(1912) 

THE ASTORS

 
Madeleine Astor Force

(1912) 

MADELEINE ASTOR FORCE

 
Lucien P. Smith's December baby

(1912) 

LUCIEN P. SMITH'S DECEMBER BABY

 
MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

(1912) 

MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

 
MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR (1)

(1912) 

MRS. JOHN JACOB ASTOR (1)

 
Madeleine Astor

(1911) 

MADELEINE ASTOR

 
Mrs. Astor riding in Central Park

(1914) 

MRS. ASTOR RIDING IN CENTRAL PARK

 
Mrs. Astor on her morning trot through Central Park

(1915) 

MRS. ASTOR ON HER MORNING TROT THROUGH CENTRAL PARK

 
Madeleine Astor with stepson Vincent

(1915) 

MADELEINE ASTOR WITH STEPSON VINCENT

 

Articles and Stories

FIERMONTE ASSIGNED TO CLEANING OF JAIL

New York Times  (1937) 

FIERMONTE ASSIGNED TO CLEANING OF JAIL

 
DIVORCE GRANTED FORMER MRS. ASTOR

New York Times  (1938) 

DIVORCE GRANTED FORMER MRS. ASTOR

 
SUMMONS FOR FIERMONTE

New York Times  (1937) 

SUMMONS FOR FIERMONTE

 
FIERMONTES VISIT TIVOLI

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTES VISIT TIVOLI

 
NOT SATISFIED TO BE AMONG THE LIVING

The Day, New London, Connecticut, USA  (1912) 

NOT SATISFIED TO BE AMONG THE LIVING

 
COL. GRACIE DIES, HAUNTED BY TITANIC

New York Times  (1912) 

COL. GRACIE DIES, HAUNTED BY TITANIC

 
Astor Put Boy By Wife's Side

Worcester Evening Gazette  (1912) 

ASTOR PUT BOY BY WIFE'S SIDE

 
AN ATLANTIC MAN FINDS EVIDENCE FAVORING ISMAY

Atlantic City Daily Press  (1912) 

AN ATLANTIC MAN FINDS EVIDENCE FAVORING ISMAY

 
MARITAL RIFT OVER, FIERMONTE RADIOS

New York Times  (1935) 

MARITAL RIFT OVER, FIERMONTE RADIOS

 
MOTHER OF ASTOR TO ATTEND BRIDAL

New York Times  (1934) 

MOTHER OF ASTOR TO ATTEND BRIDAL

 
Greenwich Expected the Wedding

New York Times  (1911) 

GREENWICH EXPECTED THE WEDDING

 
PASTOR IS CONGRATULATED

New York Times  (1911) 

PASTOR IS CONGRATULATED

 
COL. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

New York Times  (1912) 

COL. JOHN JACOB ASTOR

 
FIERMONTE TO BE BROKER

New York Times  (1935) 

FIERMONTE TO BE BROKER

 
Hero of Titanic “Lifeboat 13,” Which Rescued Mrs. Astor, Dies

Hudson Dispatch  (1943) 

HERO OF TITANIC “LIFEBOAT 13,” WHICH RESCUED MRS. ASTOR, DIES

 
ROBERT J. HOPKINS

New York Times  (1943) 

ROBERT J. HOPKINS

 
YOUNG ASTOR TELLS OF WEDDING PLANS

New York Times  (1934) 

YOUNG ASTOR TELLS OF WEDDING PLANS

 
COL. ASTOR MAY WED ANY DAY

New York Times  (1911) 

COL. ASTOR MAY WED ANY DAY

 
Mrs Nasrallah writes to Mrs Astor

Fort Wayne News  (1912) 

MRS NASRALLAH WRITES TO MRS ASTOR

 
Thomas Whiteley : DESCRIBES LAST MEAL ON TITANIC

Washington Herald  (1912) 

THOMAS WHITELEY : DESCRIBES LAST MEAL ON TITANIC

 
ASTOR WEDDING DAY NOT SET

New York Times  (1911) 

ASTOR WEDDING DAY NOT SET

 
MRS. FIERMONTE SUES

New York Times  (1938) 

MRS. FIERMONTE SUES

 
GREENWICH PEOPLE SAVED

The Greenwich News  (1912) 

GREENWICH PEOPLE SAVED

 
ISMAY LEFT SHIP AT WOMEN'S PLEA

Washington Herald  (1912) 

ISMAY LEFT SHIP AT WOMEN'S PLEA

 
Italy Allows Fiermonte To Go on Wedding Trip

New York Times  (1935) 

ITALY ALLOWS FIERMONTE TO GO ON WEDDING TRIP

 
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