Mrs Rosa Pinsky (Róża Pińska, or Pinskaya), 32, was born in Warsaw, Poland. She resided in New York (Bora Park 57th Street, Brooklyn). She seemed to have visited relatives in Warsaw and was on her way back. Mrs Pinsky was a widow and boarded the Titanic at Southampton as a second class passenger. She held ticket number 234604, price: £13. It is likely she shared a cabin with Ellen Toomey, Bessie Watt and her daughter Bertha.
Rosa Pinsky survived the sinking. She was rescued (possibly with Mrs Watt in lifeboat 9).
(Russian) A woman, 33 years of age, needed hospital care. Later, because of ill health continued she returned to relatives in Russia. (case 381, awarded 200 dollars from the committee)
American Red Cross
According to the Red Cross, she returned to Russia (Poland). What became of her is unclear but new research suggests she may have been killed in the Holocaust during 1943, and buried in a mass grave.
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hello first, I am new here and sorry my english is bad ( I am only 14) Rosa Pinsky is a very interesting passenger but i now only that of her she was jewish she was widowed she lived in burrough park street she had relatives in warsaw she shared a cabin with mrs. watt, miss watt and with miss toomey in second class she was saved in lifeboat 9 and she return to russia (or poland ?) but what became of her, why did she return, where can i find a photo of her, did she have cildren, what was her maiden name , whats her birth date, did she have sisters or brothers, what are names of her parents, when did she died and where? hope some one can give some answers =) Alessandro
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She used to live in Brooklyn and went to her native Poland to visit relatives. On the way back to the USA she boarded the Titanic and survived on Lifeboat #9. According to new information here on ET, the ordeal left her in poor health and unable to care for herself in America and so she returned at some stage to Poland, presumably for family support. Poland was by then annexed by Russia and she probably found it difficult to leave. Recent research (as per ET) suggests that she was still in Poland during WW2 and died there during the holocaust and is buried in a mass grave. One of the saddest fates that befell a Titanic survivor. :(
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I contacted my sources in Russia and Israel about Rosa Pinsky and they have come up with a likely explanation based on their research thus far that is somewhat at odds with what is currently thought about her, but explains her return to Poland after the disaster. According to my source, Rosa Pinksy was NOT a "Polish-American" - at least not yet at the time. She did not actually live in Burrows Street in New York but was visiting relatives/friends there (and elsewhere), presumably with plans to move herself and her children (who were still in Poland at the time) to the US. So, unlike some sources, she was not 'returning' to the USA on board the Titanic but actually going there, although it may not have been for the first time. Details awaited. From what I have learned, Rosa Pinsky was born in a small Polish town called Bereznitsa in 1880. Bereznitsa was a 'shtetl' (meaning a birch grove) and most Jewish families is the Russo-Polish region lived in shtetls at the time. There is some...
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Nice info. I couldn't find any of that on the interwebs when I searched before. Maybe its out there in a language I don't understand. Anyway good info. Thanks.
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I have told Nikolay (one of my sources on Rosa Pinsky) about conflicting information about her visit/return to America and what's here on ET. He has his own source in Israel who has been trying to get as much information as possible about her for over 2 years. I'll post what I learn but her resting place may never be definitely known.
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Just curious. Are your friends researching her from a Titanic perspective or a holocaust one? Or a combination of the two? Was wondering that as you mentioned your friend/source in Israel. I've visited the Yad Vashem center in Jerusalem. Impressed with what they've done there.
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As far as I can gather, Nikolay (who is of Polish-Russian ancestry) first developed an interest in Rosa Pinsky because she happened to be a Titanic survivor. He has also talked about celebrating annual anniversaries of the Titanic disaster but is also very interested in the effects of the Holocaust in Eastern Europe. Therefore, the answer to your question has to be "a bit of both", at least as far as Nikolay is concerned. I have never met Nikolay in person but he responded to my query about Rosa Pinsky in one of Eastern European Titanic sites (I cannot recall which) about 2 years ago. As his English was very limited, we corresponded through an interpreter named Garold Goodwin and I suspect that our mails to each other are translated from English to Russian and vice versa. We have been exchanging many such mails since then. The other...
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As far as I can gather, Nikolay (who is of Polish-Russian ancestry) first developed an interest in Rosa Pinsky because she happened to be a Titanic survivor. He has also talked about celebrating annual anniversaries of the Titanic disaster but is also very interested in the effects of the Holocaust in Eastern Europe. Therefore, the answer to your question has to be "a bit of both", at least as far as Nikolay is concerned. I have never met Nikolay in person but he responded to my query about Rosa Pinsky in one of Eastern European Titanic sites (I cannot recall which) about 2 years ago. As his English was very limited, we corresponded through an interpreter named Garold Goodwin and I suspect that our mails to each other are translated from English to Russian and vice versa. We have been exchanging many such mails since then. The other source is a bone fide Israeli named Moshe Kruman and I believe he lives in Beit Shemesh. I have...
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I know, but that's the challenge. The information available on Rosa Pinsky is very limited and conflicting, as we discussed. Research is likely to unearth more accurate information about her pre-Titanic life and perhaps from 1912 (after she returned to Poland) till 1939. But once WW2 started, everything became very confusing and disrupted. There are other shipwreck survivor passengers about whom I have an interest and am researching. One is another Titanic survivor Virginia Emanuel-Martin, who was 6 years and 6 months old at the time. I have posted quite a bit of information about her on ET. The other is Lusitania survivor Julia Sullivan.
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A bit of a gamble me intervening at this stage of all enquiries. Some years back I had the same problem over a person whose faith was Jewish. Luck should have it I was in one of the local supermarkets in Romsey and who should be standing down one of the ailes Esther Ransom. In my hatse I kind off took the gamble and approached her and expaling my delimma over my line of enquiries as this one I was searching for was partly related to Titanic. Related mainly with the Relief Fund, and to my amazement he succeed at eascaping the grips of Hitler's tyranny back in 1934 To cut a long story short she gave some very valuable advice and try searching the Jewish Chronciles based at London, and they in turn were exremely helpful and couldn't be more satisfactory at providing all the relevant material answering many of my own podering questions. Try approaching the Jewish Chronciles based at London, there is a fee to pay but worth persuing. A.W.
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