Mr Charles Painter

Charles Painter

Charles Painter was born in Southampton, Hampshire, England in 1880.

He was the son of Frederick Painter, a seaman, and Caroline Bagley (b. 1861), both Southampton natives who were married in early 1880. His known siblings were: Frederick (b. 1882), William (b. 1884), Caroline (b. 1886) and Henry (b. 1889).

He first appears on the 1880 census as an infant living with his mother at 3 Golden Grove, Southampton and on the 1891 census at 39 Cumberland Street. His mother died in 1894 and he and his siblings were forced into work at an early age. Charles is absent from the 1901 census, indicating perhaps that he was already at sea by this point.

Charles was married in 1903 to Mary Ann Edith Houghton (b. 1881), also from Southampton, and they had four children: Lillian Edith May (1904-1941, later Mrs Frank Joyce), Charles James (1905-1977), Frederick George  (1908-1911) and Dorothy Alice (1910-1915).  The family appear on the 1911 census living at 60 North East Road, Sholing, Southampton and Charles is described as a ship's fireman. Towards the close of the year they lost their younger son Frederick, aged just 3.

When Charles signed on to the Titanic, on 10 April 1912, he gave his address as 172 Mortimer Road, Southampton and his previous ship as the Olympic. As a fireman he could expect to earn monthly wages of £6, 10s.  It is speculated that he and fellow fireman Frank Painter were related.

Charles Painter was lost in the sinking and his body, if recovered, was never identified.

His widow was remarried in 1914, becoming Mrs William H. Turner, and she had several more children. Just one year after her remarriage Mary lost her youngest child Dorothy aged 4.  Mary died in Hampshire in 1956.

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  1. Mary said:

    In the request for a source for information about two firemen - Charles Painter and F. (Frank) Painter, I neglected to give my e-mail address - [email protected] If you know any information or a source for such, please e-mail me. Mary Mary

  2. Mary said:

    I am looking for more information about two firemen - Charles Painter and F. (Frank) Painter. Neither survived the disaster. If you know of any source that I could use to find this information, please e-mail me. Mary Mary

  3. heidi said:

    if any one has info on charles painter or frank painter they where both firemen on the titanic they may have been related to me Heidi mi

  4. Barbara Painter Kemery said:

    I went to the exibit in Atlantic City and found it to be very interesing. (an excellent display and very well done and informative) Also interested in finding out anything about two passengers that were on the Titanic Charles and Frank Painter. Barbara Painter Kemery New Jersey

  5. Dennis Lovett said:

    Very interesting discovery - Frank Painter was my 1st cousin 3 times removed.

  6. karen preston said:

    Twins Thomas and Edwin drowned in 1907. Very sad story.Edwin was my great grandfather. We still live in southampton

  7. karen preston said:

    Frank is my great great grandfathers uncle not found any links to charles but I 'm hopin gto find an answer here.

  8. karen preston said:

    Do you know if they could have been related? They served on the Olympic prior to Titanic and lived less that half a mile from each other at one point.

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    Steven Christian said:

    I couldn't say for sure. I have looked around but found nothing conclusive. I know they were not brothers. Different fathers whose age differance appears to be about 20 years so I doubt the fathers were brothers themselves. They could have been cousins or uncle/nephew. You would have to use one of those geneoligical websets or check local records. I don't know how common the name... Read full post

  10. karen preston said:

    Due to the Covid situation I have had some time to reasurch some more history. Sadly I have to admit to handing over to someone else in the family who is much better at the reasurch than me. lol. If theres a link she'll find it. She is waiting for the reading rooms and libraries to open. It does however turn out that I have two other relatives on board. One drowned and one survived.

  11. karen preston said:

    Having done lots of research. I find that Frank had at leased 7 other relatives on the titanic, still not found a link to Frank but I still cant get into the reading rooms for the parish records. Most of the fireman came from the same area and in those days they married locally. Lots of them worked together and came from large sea faring families. I wouldn't be surprised if there were more links but I'm running out of umph!

  12. karen preston said:

    1st march 2021 still in covid situation and his question is still driving me nuts!!!!!!

  13. karen preston said:

    I've been looking for crew info for Olympic. For frank Painter and Charles Painter. They both listed the Olympic as previous posts. I can find them. Is it possible they were telling porkie pies???? Doe anyone have experience of this. I have to admit I HATE the national archives I really struggle to find what I'm looing for.

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    Steven Christian said:

    Too bad about your research troubles. At some point they will realize that these lockdowns aren't helping anything and then you can get back to it. I live in a place that never had lockdowns so don't know what your really going thru. What you wrote sounds like a lot of the little towns where I live where everybody has the last name. Hard to tell who's who. Good luck on your research.

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    Steven Christian said:

    Never heard that term before...guessing it means tall tales? The Painters are listed as having served aboard the Olympic on the list below if... Read full post

  16. karen preston said:

    Now why couldn't I find that on my own! Thank you.

  17. karen preston said:

    Lockdown!? We're both still working. I'd rather like a lockdown about now!

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    Steven Christian said:

    Oh! Thought I read where England was in a lockdown. Maybe it was Australia. Serves me right for not questioning the media. Cheers.

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Encyclopedia Titanica (2015) Charles Painter (ref: #1614, last updated: 22nd October 2015, accessed 14th June 2021 09:57:37 AM)
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