Colonel John Weir

Colonel John Weir
New York Herald, 18 April 1912

Colonel John Weir was born in Innerleithen, Peebleshire1,Scotland on 14 May 1850. 2

He was the son of John Weir (b. 1819), a wool weaver, and Jane Gillies (b. 1821). His father was originally from Galashiels, Selkirkshire, and his mother from Edinburgh.

His known siblings were: Robert (1841-1919), Margaret (b. 1849), Charles (b. 1855), James (b. 1856), Sarah (b. 1858), George (b. 1862), Jane (b. 1864) and Elizabeth (b. 1869).

John first appears on the 1851 census as an 11-month-old infant living with his family at an unspecified address in Innerleithen. When the family appear on the 1871 census living at 6 Dickson Street, Beckhouse in Roxburghshire John was not present at the time and his whereabouts are not known. He later worked as a coachman.

He was married on 10 November 1873 to Catherine Plant (b. 14 December 1853), a resident of Moffat, Dumfriesshire but English by birth, hailing from Staffordshire. The couple travelled extensively, with Weir working as a vet, and they would shortly visit the USA. Their son Robert Duncan Weir (b. 1876), known as Robin, was born in Bloomington, Illinois in 1876.

The couple later travelled to Australia and by the advent of the next decade the marriage between John and Catherine had collapsed and they were divorced. Catherine and her son Robert remained in Australia, Catherine settling in Queensland where she was remarried to a John Howat. She died on 8 November 1907.

John was remarried shortly after to Harriet "Hattie" Elizabeth Mallinson (b. 1857), a native of Cornwall, Connecticut and had a further three children: a son Harold Mallison (b. 1878) was born in Australia, a daughter Beatrice Mallinson (b. 1880) in San Francisco and another daughter, Mary Norton (b. 1885) was born in London.

The movements of the family are difficult to trace. Contemporary newspaper reports state that Weir, apparently a well-known figure in Salt Lake City, Utah, had made a fortune in mining in the US, working as an engineer and becoming president of the Nevada-Utah Mines & Smelters corporation before he stood down in May 1907 on account of ill health. He also reportedly served during the Spanish-American War, presumably where he garnered his title of Colonel, and was appointed quartermaster-general by President McKinley and served in the Philippines.

For the last few years of his life Weir had apparently made his home back in Britain, dividing his time between his home "Ingleholm" in North Berwick, Lothian, Scotland and in London but would make frequent trips back to Utah and was a member of the Alta club in Salt Lake City. The 1911 British census shows him residing at 229 Piccadilly, West London and he was described as a retired mining engineer.

His daughter Beatrice had married in 1904 to a Canadian barrister, Donald Francis Charles Steuart-Seton (b. 1873), a native of New Brunswick. By 1911 Beatrice and her husband were living in at 33 Mall Road in Hammersmith, London and had a daughter, Beatrice (b. 1906). Weir's younger daughter Mary was a nun in a Scottish convent.

His friend, Morris P. Kirk of Salt Lake City, received a letter dated 6 April in which Weir stated that he was going to travel on the Philadelphia and was planning on travelling to Salt Lake City. Kirk and Weir were to travel to California to look over some mining areas in the Feather River area. The scheduled sailing of Philadelphia was postponed by the coal strike and Weir transferred to the Titanic. He boarded the ship in Southampton and was travelling in first class (ticket number 113800 which cost £26, 11s) and was reportedly accompanying Irish passenger Henry Forbes Julian.

John Weir died in the sinking and his body, if recovered, was never identified.

Mrs Weir reportedly arrived at the Cunard dock to receive news of her husband and fainted twice, such was her grief and had to be carried back to her automobile by policemen.

Weir left a net estate of £26,876, part of which consisted of stocks and bonds he had on his person aboard Titanic, which was divided between his wife and four children. His son Harold had been appointed administrator of the estate but son Robert soon appeared to contest matters, claiming himself to be the only legitimate heir of Colonel Weir and attacking the validity of his father's second marriage.

Weir's widow Hattie died in Manhattan on 4 April 1919 and was buried in North Cornwall Cemetery in East Orange, New Jersey.

His son Robert made his home in Queensland, Australia where he worked as a farmer and sugar boiler among other professions. He was married to Nellie Archer (1883-1969) and raised a large family before his death in 1946.

Son Harold later became a civic engineer, was married to a Canadian, Amy Ruth Fraye (b. 1878) and lived in Santa Clara, California where they raised a family. He died in 1960.

What became of Weir's two daughters is not certain.


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  1. Birthplace often cited as Ladhope in Selkirkshire, an area close to Galashiels.
  2. Birthdate frequently given as 14 May 1852. Later census (he gave his age as 57 on the 1911 census) and newspaper reports differ over his age, but several newspaper reports give his age as 62 (whilst still not accurate) as opposed to 49. The 1851 census shows him as an infant just one month shy of his first birthday and at the time of his first marriage in 1873 he was stated to be 33 years old. 

References and Sources

The Bulletin (San Francisco), April 20, 1912
Salt Lake Tribune (Utah), 19 April 1912, p. 16
New York Herald, 18 April 1912, Still Have Hope For John Weir

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