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1. Of the eight it were six who survived (one was in lifeboat No. 13, one rescued by No. 4 from the water and the others were in collapsible C).
2. Thank you Ioannis :) I found a picture of the Annetta at I found that Fang was the one picked up from the water in Boat 14,
3. I just saw information about the Chinese passengers and am wondering if anyone has any definitive information about how they were treated on the Carpathia. I have seen that they were "held overnight" after arrival in NYC and also one quote that "they were put in irons" on Carpathia. Anyone know the truth?
4. It's well established that the Chinese men were held on Carpathia overnight and taken to their ship Annetta by boat in the morning. See Debbie Beavis: Who Sailed on the Titanic. By doing this, they complied with the Chinese Exclusion Act to the letter. They never set foot on US soil. (It seems an earlier post of mine was incorrect). The "putting in irons" sounds like an invention. Many sensational things were published soon after Carpathia arrived and they can't be trusted. Do you know that the lifeboats were menaced by a school of whales? A reporter did! See my earlier posts for the difficulty of finding out anything much about the Chinese. Not even their proper names are known.
5. Thanks Dave. I really knew nothing about these six/eight until yesterday. I read that they were held overnight on Carpathia and also that they were taken to Ellis Island. I certainly suppose they could have arranged for a small vessel... Read full post
6. I'd back Debbie's account. I don't have her book, but I've read it and she gives proper sources for her story. The Secretary for Commerce and Labor, Charles Nagel, went to New York and ordered his officials to minimise red tape, so nobody went to Ellis Island. It would make sense for the Chinese to be taken to their ship by boat, which was both convenient and in accordance with US law.
7. Hi,I was lurking here for a while.Although everyone is talking about Chinese passengers of Titanic now so I assume everyone here already knows,There are pretty interesting articles about Chinese passengers. (Sorry about my English.Not my first language.) Regards.Kaori O Tokyo Japan
8. This is a wonderful story about the Chinese passengers and some great detective work. What a pity Fang Lang was never interviewed despite living such a long life. His story would have perhaps been the most horrific of them all. This was someone who could actually have actually looked you in the eye and told you what it was like to wait for rescue whilst nearly 1500 people slowly die around you. Although new discoveries about the actual ship itself may be unlikely, this goes to show that there are still discoveries to be made regarding the passengers and crew.
9. Have you all seen Steven Schwankert’s documentary “ The Six”? Tom Fund was featured in it.
10. Is there any information on who the Japanese passenger was whom Lowe picked up when he ventured back to the wreckage of the Titanic? He was the one who apparently jumped into the lifeboat and immediately took up an oar. Is anything known about him? Thanks.
11. I believe the "Japanese" man was actually Fang Lang, who was, of course, Chinese. Some reports said that he had lashed himself to a door. Although stiff and frozen when rescued, he recovered quickly and helped with the rowing. Apparently, he did very well and I have read that the experience changed Lowe's till then somewhat condescending attitude towards Orientals.
12. The man saved wasn't actually Japanese, but Chinese. The only Japanese passenger, Masabumi Hosono, managed to get in lifeboat number 10. Of the eight Chinese passengers on-board 6 were saved, these being: Third class passenger Lee Bing/Coon Lee (1880-19?) Third class passenger Chang/Chong Chip (1880-1914) Third class passenger Choong Foo (1880-19?) Third class passenger Ling Hee (1888-19?) Third class passenger Ah/Ali Lam (1874-19?) Third class passenger Fang Lang/Fong Wing Sun (1894-1986) One of them managed to get in lifeboat number 13 (which was lowered at about 1:40), four of them managed to get in collapsible Engelhardt lifeboat C, which was lowered at about 2:00.... Read full post

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