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The New York Incident

Near collision for world's largest ship.

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Titanic's maiden voyage nearly ended in disaster... on the very first day when her suction pulled the New York away from its mooring...

A number of the Titanic's crew transferred from the SS New York before joining the Titanic. Like many other ships at the time, the New York was laid up owing to the ongoing coal strike.

SS New York
The SS New York

The smaller vessel was tied up alongside the White Star Line's own Oceanic.

A large concourse of people had gathered to speed the vessel on her maiden voyage, and she made an impressive picture as she quietly glided, in brilliant sunshine, down Southampton water, quite dwarfing all adjacent shipping. - Dublin Daily telegraph 11 April 1912

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New York's stern drifts out

As the Titanic passed the two liners the New York was pulled away from the quay. Hawsers at the New York's stern strained and then parted, snapping with 'reports like a revolver firing'.

Closer and closer

The dramatic episode was witnessed by hundreds of onlookers on the quayside, as well as on the decks of the Titanic. Two of those with the best vantage point were the electricians George Ervine and Alfred Middleton who were perched at the top of the Titanic's fourth funnel.

As soon as the Titanic began to move out of the dock, the suction caused the Oceanic, which was alongside her berth, to swing outwards, while another liner broke loose altogether and bumped into the Oceanic. The gangway of the Oceanic simply dissolved.

Middleton and myself were on top of the after funnel, so we saw everything quite distinctly. I thought there was going to be a proper smash up owing to the high wind; but I don't think anyone was hurt. - Letter by Assistant Electrician Albert George Ervine to his mother.

Passenger photo

Captain Smith and Pilot George Bowyer ordered the Titanic's engines stopped and the starboard anchor partially lowered in readiness to stop the ship.  Tugs hurried to guide the New York to a berth a little beyond the Oceanic, on Dock Head. Charles Gale aboard the tug vulcan recorded:

Someone sang out to me to get up and push the New York back, but such a thing was impossible. Had I got between the two ships we would almost certainly have been jammed. Instead, I turned the Vulcan round and got a wire rope on the port quarter of the New York.  Unfortunately, that rope parted, but our men immediately got a second wire on board, and we got hold of the New York when she was within four feet of the Titanic. Our movements were all the more trying because the broken mooring ropes from the New York were lying in the water, and we stood a good chance of fouling our own propeller. Every rope on the New York snapped, the stern lines being the first to go. — Quoted in Titanic Triumph and Tragedy

From the quayside

LARGEST LINER'S FIRST VOYAGE
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THE TITANIC DRAWS ANOTHER VESSEL FROM MOORINGS
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EXCITING START

A serious disaster was narrowly averted and a dramatic proof of the much-debated theory of "suction" was given at the departure on her maiden voyage of the marvellous White Star Liner Titanic, the largest steamer in the world.

As the Titanic passed from her berth to the open stream of Southamton Water the gigantic new liner sucked the water between her and the quay to such a degree that the strain broke the strong hawsers with which the liner New York was tied to the quayside, and for some time a collision between the two vessels looked likely.

Happily the prompt action of the men in command and the quick use of a couple of steam tugs prevented a collision, and the mighty Titanic at last steamed away like a proud queen of the sea, an hour late but not at all worried.

The theory of suction was held by some persons to be all moonshine when it was urged as the reason why the cruiser Hawke ran into the Olympic—the Titanic's twin sister—in the Solent last September.

You need to get up on the boat deck of the Titanic, as I did this morning before she sailed, and to look down from there on boats like the Majestic, the St. Louis, and the Philadelphia, lying a few cables away, to realise how colossal the new White Star boats are and how awesome the power of their propellers must be.

It is not very long since the Majestic was regarded as one of the world's records. This morning we looked down and laughed, a kindly laugh, at her and the two American Line boats moored beside her. They seemed such small affairs with their 10,000 or 11,000 tons, compared with the Titanic's 46,000.

Having looked down on the world from the Titanic's boat deck, I went on the quay and looked up at the projecting heads of the passengers. It was like standing by the wall of St. Paul's Cathedral and craning your neck to get a glimpse of the Apostles on the roof.

It was just noon when the vast steel wall in front of us began to move.

THE START

For the first yards a caterpillar might have raced the Titanic. It was difficult to imagine such a tremendous object moving, so slowly. I walked along to the end of the deep water dock and saw her come by at a slow pace within a stone's throw of the quay. Her propellers churned the green sea up to liquid grey mud. She had to go round a bend to the left—not at all a ship bend—about half-a-mile further on in order to clear the end of the long quay which juts out slantwise into Southampton Water. It was while trying to round this bit of a bend that the Titanic pulled the 10,798-ton New York liner from her berth. And then an astonishing spectacle held the gaze of the crowd, for between the Titanic and the quay—a distance of two or three hundred yards-the New York was drifting stern first towards the outgoing liner. What was said to have happened seemed a fantastic absurdity until I saw the frayed end of a steel wire hawser about as thick as a man's wrist lying on the quay. "It snapped like the crack of a gun," a man told me who saw it break. Broken hemp cables hung down the New York's side. The crowd was breathless with excitement; people climbed into railway trucks to see what was going to happen.

THE SITUATION SAVED

As soon as the New York broke loose the Titanic reversed her engines, and in a brief space of time stopped deed and began to back. Then the tugs Neptune and Vulcan raced at the New York, caught her with ropes by the bows, and, turning, tried to lug her back to her place. It was difficult to tell the distance looking broadside on, but it looked as if you oould have thrown a hat from the Oceanic to the New York and from the New York to the Titanic. But no one in uniform was flurried. A master of port navigation with a megaphone stood stolidly on the quay issuing orders across the water as calmly as if he were having his tea. He had the New York pulled back across the Oceanic's bows and round the bend to the quay and there tied up securely, and then he let the Titanic come on again towards the open water. She had backed right away towards the deep water dock while the New York was being dragged about like a naughty child. It was a relief to everyone when the Titanic at last passed the bend and glided slowly away to sea. It was a thrilling start for the maiden voyage of the largest steamer in the world. The Titanic is the Olympic's twin, but she is slightly longer—just three inches longer—and nearly 1,000 tons larger, so that she is the largest ship afloat. She is even more wonderful than the Olympic, for she has a Parisian restaurant, in addition to other palatial restaurants which the Olympic possesses in common. - Birmingham Daily Gazette - Thursday 11 April 1912

Guided to safety

Tugs straining

Berthed at dock head

 

Passing the clipper bow of the New York

Damaged ropes

Some took the incident as an ill omen, perhaps a portent of trouble ahead.

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  1. Brad Rousse
    It helps to realize the people who actually know the subject aren't the target audience and that you're simply watching a movie.
  2. Mike Spooner
    Thanks for the reply. Queenstown is where Titanic left British jurisdiction! What typical legal statement! Only the Board of Trade could come with some thing like that! As far I can see the life of Titanic started in Belfast and that is were problems are starting to come up within the ship?
  3. Harland Duzen Harland Duzen
    Don't forget though that Titanic was cleared to travel from Belfast by Captain Clarke of the Board of Trade who by Lightoller's account was very strict when it came to checking ships* saying of them that "He did his job...he did it thoroughly." Back to Topic! *[SIZE=3]There was the "fire", but it wasn't serious and a frequent problem on coal ships). [/SIZE]
  4. Mike Spooner
    Quite so what a joke it was!
  5. Mike Spooner
    I think the Titanic film was a bit of let down when ones has seen the, The Night to Remember film first. (1958). As that film was part base facts and a drama story with some careless mistakes. The time Titanic film come out I would of thought the facts should of been better researched by now. Yet there still were some pretty stupid's facts mistakes been made. In fact the film was more based on a fairy story between Jack and Rose. I personal think they used and abused the name Titanic to sell the film! As the near collision with the New York Liner in Southampton just didn't fit into the fairy story.
  6. Aaron_2016 Aaron_2016
    Titanic (1997) was great in set design and Hollywood sparkle, but pretty terrible at portraying everything else. To quote Hollywood director Robert Altman - "Titanic, I thought was the most dreadful piece of work I've ever seen in my entire life." .
  7. Seumas
    Firstly, one or two of the newspapers reported that there were some injuries when the ropes violently snapped aboard the New York whilst people stood on her decks watching the Titanic's departure. Did anyone who was aboard the New York that day subsequently pursue any claims (successful or unsuccessful) for injury compensation or did the newspapers then as they do now, simply exaggerate with their reports of injuries ? Secondly, in the days following, did the Southampton port authorities have to make an official report into this alarming near collision ? Or with the Titanic at the bottom of the Atlantic and nearly 1500 people dying in horrific circumstances - was it thought better just to let the matter drop ? Thank You.
  8. Gordon Mooneyhan
    Had the Titanic not had the near miss with the New York, she would have departed on time, rather than about an hour late. That change would have meant, all else being equal, that the Titanic would have passed about 3/4 of a mile south of the iceberg she collided with as she would have arrived at 41degrees, 44minutes N, 49degrees 57minutes W about an hour earlier than the iceberg. Had the Titanic and New York collided, there would have at least been a long delay while an inspection was made for damage to the Titanic. That would have also meant that the Titanic would have missed colliding with the iceberg, this time passing to the north of the iceberg.
  9. Gordon Mooneyhan
    The single funnel looks like it's backward. I think if it had a rake similar to the other renderings it would look better.
  10. Sam Brannigan
    That's certainly possible, but perhaps they made up this hour by leaving Cherbourg and Queenstown a little earlier than normal?
  11. Mike Spooner
    Personally the near miss and time factors like the asking how long is a peace of string. The real true of the matter captain Smith had about four safety options on hand but never took one!
  12. Gordon Mooneyhan
    I'll admit that I don't know about ship departures, however, passenger trains and busses cannot depart before the advertised departure time. My guess is that the same would apply to passenger ships. Granted, at both Cherbourg and Queenstown, the Titanic was anchored offshore and serviced by tenders, so at least in theory, she could depart once the mail and passengers had transferred to/from the tenders. I don't know the answer but would assume (and yes, I know about assume) that departure would not be before the advertised time. This brings up a couple of interesting questions. Could the Titanic have made up the roughly one-hour delay between Southampton and Cherbourg? Probably not. Maybe 10 to 15 minutes of the time. IIRC, the trip across the Channel was about 5 hours. She arrived in Cherbourg
  13. Georges Guay
    The New York Incident «The theory of suction was held by some persons to be all moonshine when it was urged as the reason why the cruiser Hawke ran into the Olympic—the Titanic's twin sister—in the Solent last September». «For the first yards a caterpillar might have raced the Titanic. It was difficult to imagine such a tremendous object moving, so slowly. I walked along to the end of the deep water dock and saw her come by at a slow pace within a stone's throw of the quay. Her propellers churned the green sea up to liquid grey mud. She had to go round a bend to the left—not at all a ship bend—about half-a-mile further on in order to clear the end of the long quay which juts out slantwise into Southampton Water. It was while trying to round this bit of a bend that the Titanic pulled the 10,798-ton New York liner from her berth. As soon as the New York broke loose the Titanic reversed her engines, and in a brief space of time stopped deed and began to back. He had
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