Mr Edgar Joseph Meyer

Edgar Joseph Meyer

Mr Edgar Joseph Meyer was born in San Francisco, California on 13 January 1884.

He was the son of Eugene Marc Meyer (1842-1925), a dry goods merchant and later a banker, and Harriett Newmark (1852-1922). His father was born in Alsace, Germany (now in modern-day France) whilst his mother was born in New York and was of mixed German and English heritage. They were married in Los Angeles on 20 November 1867.

Edgar's known siblings were: Rosalie (1869-1956, later Mrs Sigmund Stern), Elise (1872-1953, later Mrs Abraham Stern), Florence (1873-1930, later, Mrs George Blumenthal), Eugene Isaac (1875-1959), Bertha Ruth (1877-1967, later Mrs Alfred Cook), Aline (1879-1966, later Mrs Charles Liebman) and Walter Eugene (1881-1957).

Edgar and his family later moved east and appear on the 1900 census as residents of Ocean Avenue, Monmouth, New Jersey and he was then described as a bank clerk.

Edgar was married in 1909 to Leila Saks (b. 1886), a native of Baltimore, Maryland and the daughter German parents. The couple had one daughter, Jane (b. 19 May 1911, later Stern).

Residents of Manhattan, Mr and Mrs Meyer boarded the Titanic at Cherbourg as first class passengers (ticket number PC 17604, which cost £82, 3s, 5d). Leila's father had died two days before sailing on 8 April 1912 following a protracted illness and the decision to travel on Titanic was a hastily arranged affair following notification of his death.

Mrs Meyer later recalled:

"I tried and tried to get Edgar to come into the lifeboat with me, and pleaded to be allowed to stay behind and wait until he could leave, he not caring to leave before all the women had been saved. Mr. Meyer finally persuaded me to leave, reminding me of our one-year-old child at home. I entered the lifeboat and watched until the Titanic sank, but only for a short time did I see my husband standing beside the rail and assisting other women into boats in which he might have been saved."

Leila was rescued in lifeboat 6 but her husband perished in the disaster. His body, if recovered, was never identified.

His parents later resided in Manhattan; his mother died in 1922 and his father in 1925. His widow Leila later remarried before her death in 1957. His daughter Jane (later Mrs George A. Stern) died in 1984.

 

Articles and Stories

New York Times (1915) 
New York Times (1912) 
New York Times (1912) 
Le Journal (1912) 
The Times (1912) 
Worcester Telegram (1912) 
Daily Home News (1912) 
The San Francisco Call (1912) 
 

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  1. Jan C. Nielsen said:

    What does anyone know about this passenger, who perished in the disaster? His family appears to have had some strong connections to San Francisco, and to fellow passenger Dr. Washington Dodge, in particular. His relatives later ganged up on Dr. Dodge and ousted Dodge from the presidency of the Federal Telegraph Company, on January 14, 1919. Several months later, Dr. Dodge committed suicide. Any information would be appreciated.

  2. Randy Bryan Bigham said:

    Jan, He and his wife, daughter of the founder of Saks Fifth Avenue, were among the people the Duff Gordons met on board Titanic. In her memoirs (p 167), "Lucile" writes: "...After dinner we went down into the lounge, where we met Mr. and Mrs. Edgar Meyer. I had my little autograph book with me and got them to write in it. It was one of the "Confession" books, which were so popular just then. Mr. Meyer filled in his "likes," "abominations," etc., and then came to the column marked "madnesses." He laughed as he said: "I have only one - to live," and wrote it down. In less than two hours... Read full post

  3. Jan C. Nielsen said:

    Thanks, Randy. Gosh, if that little book shows up somewhere it would be worth a small fortune. But who knows if it survived. I'm really intrigued by the Meyer family's connection to Dr. Dodge. Edgar's father, Eugene, might have been the one who got Dr. Dodge the vice president position at the Anglo London Paris National Bank, in San Francisco, right after the disaster. Several years later, Dodge left the bank, and took over the Presidency of Federal Telegraph Company. Very likely, through Lazard Freres in New York, Eugene invested heavily in the Federal Telegraph Company, which had its... Read full post

  4. Randy Bryan Bigham said:

    Jan, The Meyer connection seems curious.I thought the Meyers were from New York. Did Mrs. Meyer, or else Edgar's side of the family, move out to San Francisco after the Titanic? You are probably onto something as to Edgar's father's grudge - re: Dr. Dodge's survival - at least having partly to do with his acrimony toward Dodge. But it seems like something more is there. Sour grapes over some sort of business deal gone awry? As to the odd name "C. Altschul" in the cable you refer to, this might well have been a misspelling but you probably have considered that. The wireless was... Read full post

  5. Jan C. Nielsen said:

    I've been trying to find out more about Edgar Meyer. His father, Marc Eugene Meyer, generally known as Eugene Meyer, was born in 1847, and lived for many years in Los Angeles. He eventually moved to San Francisco, and raised a large family, which included Edgar, two sisters, and the youngest, Eugene, who was born in 1875. Eugene, Sr., moved to New York to become the managing partner of the Lazard Freres office there in 1893. His son, Eugene, Jr., worked there too, apparently. Eugene, like his father, became very successful in business. The two sisters married the Stern brothers,... Read full post

  6. Randy Bryan Bigham said:

    In my research I came across a very good photo of a Mrs. Eugene Meyer, Jr., taken in the teens or 20s. It's from the Library of Congress photo collection.

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    Michael H. Standart said:

    Uhhh...Jan...I smell one helluva book here with all the research you've done into Dr. Washington Dodge. Is one in the making? If not, you might want to consider it. Cordially, Michael H. Standart

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  8. Jan C. Nielsen said:

    No, Michael, but an ET Article is coming shortly. This Meyer family connection is important because it links the 1919 financial scandal and Dr. Dodge's death, with the Titanic disaster. The Meyer family was disenfranchised by Dr. Dodge's financial dealings, and had already lost a close family member on the Titanic --where Dodge had survived. Thus, they had more than one motivation to destroy Dr. Dodge. And with all their financial power, they had the wherewithal to do it.

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    Michael H. Standart said:

    Well, an article can lead to bigger and better things. So in regards the book;go for it Cordially, Michael H. Standart

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  10. Jan C. Nielsen said:

    Here's some corroboration of my theory: in the 1890s, Eugene Meyer (Sr.) lived only two blocks away from Dr. Dodge, in San Francisco. Sigmund Stern, and wife Rosalie (Edgar's sister), lived a couple of blocks in the other direction. Meyer's name, however, was not on the list of notables who attended Dodge's wedding to Alice Lampson Shepherd, in 1891. I went to the bookstore to get Kathrine Graham's biography, but it's sold out.

  11. Jan C. Nielsen said:

    Here's a picture of Edgar Meyer, taken in about 1890.

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    Phillip Gowan said:

    Great photo Jan. Thanks for posting the link. I'm supposing that's his little sister and see a definite resemblance between her and Edgar's own daughter, Jane (who looked nothing like her mother).

  13. Ben Holme said:

    Hi Jan, What a fascinating find! Edgar Meyer was one of about five 1st class passengers whose photograph I doubted I would ever see. Despite being a well-known resident of New York, I don't recall seeing his photo in the NY times in the weeks following the disaster. Best Regards, Ben

  14. Daniel Klistorner said:

    Jan, Thanks for that great photo. It's amazing, he's young on that photo, but he didn't change much when he grew up, he basically looks the same (but younger) as in a New York Times photo (I think 19 April 1912). Daniel.

  15. Jan C. Nielsen said:

    You're welcome, guys. Apparently, the University of California has some 5,000 or more photographs which they acquired from Elise Stern Haas, before she died in 1990. Many of the photographs are from the 1950s through the 1980s, but she had other photographs handed down from her mother, Rosalie Stern. Rosalie, of course, was the older sister to Edgar Meyer. I looked through the inventory for any connection to Dr. Dodge. Sure enough, one of the inventories listed a photograph of "Herbert Fleishhacker." He was the president of the Anglo London Paris National Bank, and the Anglo... Read full post

  16. Chris Dohany said:

    Meyer's photo did appear in an April 28, 1912 edition of the NYT. I agree he does look much the same as when he was younger.

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  17. Jan C. Nielsen said:

    Here's another photograph of Edgar Meyer. He's the second from the right. Third from the right is Walter Meyer. Again, this photograph is from approximately 1890.

  18. Colleen Collier said:

    Jan. I just wanted to let you know that I really look forward to, and appreciate, the pictures and unearthed items. Especially from those in California and the West coast. Do you happen to know who the rest of the kids are in the picture? Thanks again. Colleen

  19. Beverly J. Crowder said:

    Kah-leen, Jan has got the most excellent website of information and photos. Have you been there? He is a dedicated and incredible researcher. Beverly

  20. Colleen Collier said:

    Beverly. I haven't been able to get a link to his site that worked. Guess I should have asked before now. :-) Colleen

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Gavin Bell, UK
George Behe
Hermann Söldner
Craig Stringer
Geoff Whitfield

References and Sources

Contract Ticket List, White Star Line 1912 (National Archives, New York; NRAN-21-SDNYCIVCAS-55[279])
New York Tribune, April 19, 1912
Search archive British and Irish newspapers online

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